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This band is declining year by year.
If deryck was not an alcoholic, they would certainly be better

greenday1987 wrote:This band is declining year by year.
If deryck was not an alcoholic, they would certainly be better

lol

I think they are better than ever, seriously. That's why I can't help but laugh at that statement.

greenday1987 wrote:This band is declining year by year.
If deryck was not an alcoholic, they would certainly be better

In which way do you think they're declining?

TomiT14 wrote:

greenday1987 wrote:This band is declining year by year.
If deryck was not an alcoholic, they would certainly be better

lol

I think they are better than ever, seriously. That's why I can't help but laugh at that statement.

Exactly.. Deryck's singing is a lot better than ever. It's so much more energic shows than it used to be in Underclass Hero era when there was no movement over the stage.

TomiT14 wrote:

greenday1987 wrote:This band is declining year by year.
If deryck was not an alcoholic, they would certainly be better

lol

I think they are better than ever, seriously. That's why I can't help but laugh at that statement.

At 30, Deryck should be better than 20 years and this is not the case. His fitness has deteriorated and I doubt he can sing any new songs. An Tom's vocals are terrible. Only Cone continues to progress. Stevo has always be an average drummer.

TomiT14, Emil, gejmik, just stop feeding trolls.

sumelf wrote:TomiT14, Emil, gejmik, just stop feeding trolls.

because I do not have the same opinion as you? Good mentality

greenday1987 wrote:

sumelf wrote:TomiT14, Emil, gejmik, just stop feeding trolls.

because I do not have the same opinion as you? Good mentality

because this is stupid argument

Pocket Monkey wrote:They need to cut the chord with Fat Lip and In Too Deep, they made those songs TEN YEARS AGO, most bands stop playing their breakout singles 3-4 years after it released, hell, the Beastie Boys havent played Fight for Your Right since 1988. its cool to play it at big shows for reunions but Jesus they play it EVERY SHOW

that's not true, the offspring play self esteem pretty much every show and that's 17 years old. but i agree w/ you to an extent, i wish they'd just do a balls-out heavy (w/ a few good ballads of course) show. like strictly chuck, dtli, sbm, and king of contradiction. cuz when you start moshing to still wating or mr amsterdam etc and then underclass hero or in too deep comes on, you kinda feel like a fag for getting amped over it:0

greenday1987 wrote:

TomiT14 wrote:

greenday1987 wrote:This band is declining year by year.
If deryck was not an alcoholic, they would certainly be better

lol

I think they are better than ever, seriously. That's why I can't help but laugh at that statement.

At 30, Deryck should be better than 20 years and this is not the case. His fitness has deteriorated and I doubt he can sing any new songs. An Tom's vocals are terrible. Only Cone continues to progress. Stevo has always be an average drummer.

i actually agree w/ this too. and the guy's not a troll just cuz he has some criticism of the sums. i don't have an issue w/ anything he said.

I see that the communist doctrine is still rooted in your mind disruption.

greenday1987 wrote:

TomiT14 wrote:

greenday1987 wrote:This band is declining year by year.
If deryck was not an alcoholic, they would certainly be better

lol

I think they are better than ever, seriously. That's why I can't help but laugh at that statement.

At 30, Deryck should be better than 20 years and this is not the case. His fitness has deteriorated and I doubt he can sing any new songs. An Tom's vocals are terrible. Only Cone continues to progress. Stevo has always be an average drummer.

GTFO!

His singing has improved incredibly, he's always jumping around on stage even though his back is fucked up pretty bad.
Tom's vocals aren't bad at all.. they have improved a lot since the UH era.
Cone is amazing on stage and keeps getting better!
And Stevo is an amazing drummer I don't know how the fuck you came up with this ridiculous statement

GTFO!

His singing has improved incredibly

on the albums yes, but live, HELL NO.

Returning to the subject, I wish they would play some songs from underclass hero as "March of the Dogs, ""The Jester", "Pull The Curtain, " "With Me" and "Confusion and Frustration ... "

dbauer91 wrote:

GTFO!

His singing has improved incredibly

on the albums yes, but live, HELL NO.

Yes, suggesting that his voice was overproduced in SBM.

dbauer91 wrote:

GTFO!

His singing has improved incredibly

on the albums yes, but live, HELL NO.

How come? Rebel Yell? That even doesn't sound like Deryck anymore, he's aquired a skill to transform his voice to a whole new level!

AKNF and Chuck eras sucked vocal-wise imo. Since then it's been great improvement year-by-year.

dbauer91 wrote:

GTFO!

His singing has improved incredibly

on the albums yes, but live, HELL NO.

greenday1987 wrote:Returning to the subject, I wish they would play some songs from underclass hero as "March of the Dogs, ""The Jester", "Pull The Curtain, " "With Me" and "Confusion and Frustration ... "

I think the problem with UH songs are that theres so much stuff going on in them, like Pull the Curtain. I don't know if they'd be able to pull it off in a live setting like that. I'd like to see them do it but with all the effects and layered vocals I can't see them doing it.

Stevos not a fantasicomgamazing drummer but he's good, probably a little over average, its not like Cones bass riffs are amazing either but he's continuing to improve with his stage presence (hes mah boy!) and personally, I don't think Toms a bad singer at all, its just that his voice doesn't seem to fit for lack of a better word, the Sums music. it sounds great with Gob, once again he's not amazing. Deryck, he is getting better and I'm surprise he's still so active on stage with all his injuries. Obviously, he'd be even better if he changed his drinking habits.
thats my take.

Sum 41 will probably never be able to play a show like Live In Tokyo or Go Chuck Yourself, but they're still good, they fucking need to add Mr. Amsterdam back on the setlist though ...

FuckT41182 wrote:Sum 41 will probably never be able to play a show like Live In Tokyo or Go Chuck Yourself, but they're still good, they fucking need to add Mr. Amsterdam back on the setlist though ...

What? Where have you been for the past months?
They've played it in every headlining show since the first show this year.