ChapStick wrote:Mike Dirnt is probably a better bassist than cone but other than that Sum 41 outclass Green Day musically, and i used to love Green Day and i have all the albums but since they sold out i can't be bothered with them much anymore.
And Billie Joe is a far better guitarist than Deryck.
Bullshit. Billie Joe and Deryck are about the same. And besides, we should really be comparing Dave to Billie Joe because he was the lead guitarist for the majority of Sum 41's career and we all know Dave could slay Billie Joe. Mike is probably better than Cone to be fair but Stevo is def. better then Tre. Compare these two drum solos and tell me which one you think is better:
ChapStick wrote:Mike Dirnt is probably a better bassist than cone but other than that Sum 41 outclass Green Day musically, and i used to love Green Day and i have all the albums but since they sold out i can't be bothered with them much anymore.
And Billie Joe is a far better guitarist than Deryck.
Bullshit. Billie Joe and Deryck are about the same. And besides, we should really be comparing Dave to Billie Joe because he was the lead guitarist for the majority of Sum 41's career and we all know Dave could slay Billie Joe. Mike is probably better than Cone to be fair but Stevo is def. better then Tre. Compare these two drum solos and tell me which one you think is better:
SociallyInept wrote:Bullshit. Billie Joe and Deryck are about the same.
I fail to see how Billie Joe and Deryck are "about the same". Deryck has never struck me as anything more than a rhythm player who can throw some simple leads in here and there, and then half-ass them live. Billie Joe on the other hand can actually play some decent solos, as well as perform almost perfectly live.
BrandonCorey wrote:sum 4` obviouslly but btw american idout sucked cock'n'balls
are you kidding, that was their best album (well in my opinion)
who cares if they went mainstream. Underclass Hero was a little mainstream too yet it was a great album. i will say that it sucks how Billie, Mike and Tre stopped playing hard solos, complicated bass lines,etc. but it's about making good music, isn't it
SociallyInept wrote:Bullshit. Billie Joe and Deryck are about the same.
I fail to see how Billie Joe and Deryck are "about the same". Deryck has never struck me as anything more than a rhythm player who can throw some simple leads in here and there, and then half-ass them live. Billie Joe on the other hand can actually play some decent solos, as well as perform almost perfectly live.
Deryck doesn't play anything half-assed. And show me a video of Billie Joe playing a decent solo. I'm not trying to be a dick, I just actually haven't seen Billie Joe play anything difficult.
SociallyInept wrote:Bullshit. Billie Joe and Deryck are about the same.
I fail to see how Billie Joe and Deryck are "about the same". Deryck has never struck me as anything more than a rhythm player who can throw some simple leads in here and there, and then half-ass them live. Billie Joe on the other hand can actually play some decent solos, as well as perform almost perfectly live.
Deryck doesn't play anything half-assed. And show me a video of Billie Joe playing a decent solo. I'm not trying to be a dick, I just actually haven't seen Billie Joe play anything difficult.
you don't actually see him but those are some really good solos (except probably the ones from AI)
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SociallyInept wrote:Bullshit. Billie Joe and Deryck are about the same.
I fail to see how Billie Joe and Deryck are "about the same". Deryck has never struck me as anything more than a rhythm player who can throw some simple leads in here and there, and then half-ass them live. Billie Joe on the other hand can actually play some decent solos, as well as perform almost perfectly live.
Deryck doesn't play anything half-assed. And show me a video of Billie Joe playing a decent solo. I'm not trying to be a dick, I just actually haven't seen Billie Joe play anything difficult.
you don't actually see him but those are some really good solos (except probably the ones from AI)
Fair enough. Those are actually some pretty good solos. Probably better then Deryck, although Deryck is a pretty still above average. Still definately not as good as Dave but it seems over time he just gave up doing solos and putting effort into his music. Too bad.
SociallyInept wrote:Bullshit. Billie Joe and Deryck are about the same.
I fail to see how Billie Joe and Deryck are "about the same". Deryck has never struck me as anything more than a rhythm player who can throw some simple leads in here and there, and then half-ass them live. Billie Joe on the other hand can actually play some decent solos, as well as perform almost perfectly live.
Deryck doesn't play anything half-assed. And show me a video of Billie Joe playing a decent solo. I'm not trying to be a dick, I just actually haven't seen Billie Joe play anything difficult.
you don't actually see him but those are some really good solos (except probably the ones from AI)
Fair enough. Those are actually some pretty good solos. Probably better then Deryck, although Deryck is a pretty still above average. Still definately not as good as Dave but it seems over time he just gave up doing solos and putting effort into his music. Too bad.
He would not being playing guitar if he wasn't above average
how the fuck is this even debatable?
Sum 41 may be the forum band, but to compare them to Green Day?
That's like comparing All Time Low to Blink-182.
It's an obvious answer.
Green Day has been around since the 80s and is one of the most influencial bands of its genre.
Sum 41 has been around since the late 90s or early 00s and was pretty much forgotten between Chuck and Underclass Hero... you can bet Green Day's next album is a number 1 album and probably is one of the best selling albums of the year.
Sum 41 is good, don't get me wrong... but to compare them to a band like Green Day... you'd have to be crazy.
No, I'm not a huge Green Day fan, so this isn't a biased oppinion. This is just logic.
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erikj9 wrote:lately i have been listening to a lot of GD, so i will say GD > Sum 41. And fuck you all that say american idiot sucked, just because they went mainstream doesnt mean they suck. I thought it was a pretty good album. I enjoy most of the songs on there anyway. But yeah, i do enjoy older green day better but hey what are ya gonna do
mainstream music, for the most part, sucks.
that's final.
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Kyle_ftl wrote:how the fuck is this even debatable?
Sum 41 may be the forum band, but to compare them to Green Day?
That's like comparing All Time Low to Blink-182.
It's an obvious answer.
Green Day has been around since the 80s and is one of the most influencial bands of its genre.
Sum 41 has been around since the late 90s or early 00s and was pretty much forgotten between Chuck and Underclass Hero... you can bet Green Day's next album is a number 1 album and probably is one of the best selling albums of the year.
Sum 41 is good, don't get me wrong... but to compare them to a band like Green Day... you'd have to be crazy.
No, I'm not a huge Green Day fan, so this isn't a biased oppinion. This is just logic.
More popular=/=better
Of course Green Day is one of the most influential bands out there but just because they are popular and well known. Most people who listen to real punk rock feel the complete opposite, they won't listen to anythin mainstream for the sole reason that it's mainstream (which I find retarded but w.e)
