Subject to Change vs. Underclass Hero

Arcane · Post by **Arcane** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 10:59 pm

been listening to both lately and here is my verdict...

Underclass Hero: Has some great "jump about" vibes to it, and the lyrics are very punk style, but it really doesn't push my button. as the first single it needed more "umph" than lyrics about the same old thing.

Subject to Change: Much better than Underclass Hero, for a couple of reasons. as im not fond of metal, this song had some softer metal influences, and a more aggressive voice that suited the lyrics. the verses also sound alot better than underclass hero. the downside is the chorus was better recorded on underclass hero

your verdict?

punkrock101 · Post by **punkrock101** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:20 pm

i choose Subject to Change

Post by **Ken** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:34 pm

1. Wrong section, moved to Sums.
2. There has already been a subject like this. However, I'll let this stay.

punkbizzy · Post by **punkbizzy** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:36 pm

now i'm albe to say...Underclass Hero is the best song of the new album!
i think it's better than Subject To Change too.
I didn't like that much the song at the begining maybe cause i'd hear the chorus before.
now I know that Underclass Hero is the best one of the new record and i love it!
fans like me just don't like it that much because of the chorus.
that's my veridict..!

Arcane · Post by **Arcane** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:46 pm

Ken of Contradiction wrote:1. Wrong section, moved to Sums.
2. There has already been a subject like this. However, I'll let this stay.

my bad dude. coulda swore i was in "the sums" :/
ahhh right my bad once more.

guess theres no whips and chains out tonight then =[

Post by **Ken** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:00 am

Haha, it's cool.

STC for the win. I hope people know that "subject to change" refers to NO REASON, not Underclass Hero.

Arcane · Post by **Arcane** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:11 am

Ken of Contradiction wrote:Haha, it's cool.

STC for the win. I hope people know that "subject to change" refers to NO REASON, not Underclass Hero.

oh yer i know, but because they used the same chorus, i wanted to see which song they liked the chorus in better, but "Subject to Change vs. Underclass Hero" sounded better than all that <<

budgie · Post by **budgie** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:15 am

i would pick STC based on the intro alone
theres just something about it...

http://www.last.fm/user/cbar05 · Post by **Bobbyjames** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:18 am

punkrock101 wrote:i choose Subject to Change

Post by **Jeremy Kill** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:12 am

Anyone else here "cake" after the second chorus of Subject to Change?

"We won't be bought and sold just like -- cake!"

Maybe it's just the version I downloaded, but I once I noticed that I couldn't ignore it.

I like Subject to Change better because it's more edgy. But in Underclass Hero the chorus is sung much better and it doesn't sound like it was made up of seperate chunks.

ChapStick · Post by **ChapStick** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:20 am

STC, louder and more aggressive.

King of Contradiction · Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:21 am

I'm gonna go with Underclass Hero. I just think it's better. Don't get me wrong, Subject To Change is a good b-side and probably should have replaced one of the songs on Chuck, but I just prefer the punk pop of Underclass Hero to Subject To Change.

Post by **TomiT14** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:25 pm

Ken of Contradiction wrote:I hope people know that "subject to change" refers to NO REASON, not Underclass Hero.

I agree that Subject To change became No Reason. But IMO, the name Subject To Change was referring to Underclass Hero -song.

From Ultimate Guitar:
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/intervie ... _make.html

In regards to the albumÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s title track is it true that is came from an unfinished version of a previous track off Chuck called No Reason?

Deryck: No, it came from a song called Subject To Change, and it was a demo song. The reason we called it Subject To Change was because it really never was a finished song. It never was a song that was like actually released on an album as it was basically a demo song.

From Q&A at the official site:

Question: hey guys, Underclass hero is a great song and everything, but me and a lot of other people are wondering why you used the same chorus from "subject to change"
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Answer: we used it because we always planned to use it. the original song was just a demo that was called subject to change because it was always going to be changed. the chorus works better in this song now. so we used it.

Claudia · Post by **Claudia** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:24 pm

STC ftw
underclass hero sucks imo

Hentaiman · Post by **Hentaiman** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:32 pm

Subject to Change is much better!
it's cool and aggressive and the intro is very cool!
Altough, to say the truth, the intro is also my favorite part of "Underclass Hero" but STC's intro was just better. Metal riff style, cool, aggressive, edgy and all the stuff said above, i just have to agree with that.

And too bad Subject to change was a demo, cuz it could really make it's way to the official record of Chuck, imo.

Rick · Post by **Rick** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:43 pm

the subject to change on was sung higher than underclass

Phili · Post by **Phili** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:10 pm

Gunner wrote:Anyone else here "cake" after the second chorus of Subject to Change?

"We won't be bought and sold just like -- cake!"

Maybe it's just the version I downloaded, but I once I noticed that I couldn't ignore it.

I like Subject to Change better because it's more edgy. But in Underclass Hero the chorus is sung much better and it doesn't sound like it was made up of seperate chunks.

He doesn't say "cake" but he does say something besides "you"... might be "hey".

Post by **Jeremy Kill** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:23 pm

Phili wrote:
Gunner wrote:Anyone else here "cake" after the second chorus of Subject to Change?

"We won't be bought and sold just like -- cake!"

Maybe it's just the version I downloaded, but I once I noticed that I couldn't ignore it.

I like Subject to Change better because it's more edgy. But in Underclass Hero the chorus is sung much better and it doesn't sound like it was made up of seperate chunks.
He doesn't say "cake" but he does say something besides "you"... might be "hey".

Yeah, because I was thinking "cake" was pretty random. But I'm glad I'm not the only one who was hearing something instead of "you."

Arcane · Post by **Arcane** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:21 am

Gunner wrote:
Phili wrote:
Gunner wrote:Anyone else here "cake" after the second chorus of Subject to Change?

"We won't be bought and sold just like -- cake!"

Maybe it's just the version I downloaded, but I once I noticed that I couldn't ignore it.

I like Subject to Change better because it's more edgy. But in Underclass Hero the chorus is sung much better and it doesn't sound like it was made up of seperate chunks.
He doesn't say "cake" but he does say something besides "you"... might be "hey".
Yeah, because I was thinking "cake" was pretty random. But I'm glad I'm not the only one who was hearing something instead of "you."

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

i re-listened and paid attention, it sounds like "cake" SOOO fucking much!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

omg thank you gunner for sad hysterics =]

spider-man · Post by **spider-man** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:43 am

HAHA that cake thing is awesome, it really does sound like it, and maybe it should be cake in the first place, no one wants to be bought and sold like cake is you know.