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hey amin!
please excuse the delay, i've been pretty busy.
things are going great! the song i wrote is now called screaming bloody murder, deryck wrote the lyrics. i played some guitar on the new record.
the gob record is in the works but we still have a lot to record, we'll finish it as soon as possible. the songs are the best songs i've ever written.
hope to see u soon in paris too!
tom
oh, alright. i'm actually pretty pumped that this album is gonna be pretty much a solely-deryck one then (except panick attack [sbm] sorta). the rest of their work has been solely deryck and i feel that i would want one mind working on an album rather than a bunch of scrambled ideas coming from all sorts of places anyway. cool cone q&a too, and once again, just calling it now - my 20th bday - 3/15/11 WILL BE the release date.TomiT14 wrote:Like Everyone Else was written by Cone. Sad to hear it didn't make it.dbauer91 wrote:isn't "like everyone else" a song that cone or brown tom wrote anyway? i remember seeing some interview about that awhile ago.
Panic Attack was written by Tom, then Deryck added his own touch to it and renamed it Screaming Bloody Murder.
If that fails, March 26th would be cool too.dbauer91 wrote:just calling it now - my 20th bday - 3/15/11 WILL BE the release date.
FUCK YES!Deryck wrote:"We are going to be playing different songs, that we haven’t played before, but will still put on a fun, high energy show. We should be playing an hour and twenty so will have time to fit in a lot of songs."
I'm really hoping for No Brains comeback! And some UH badassness like Jester or CYLB would be nice!Andros wrote:Man you made my day fuck yes! new songs that they never play!!! I hope Noots xD or I'm Not The One :D
no offense, but i hate it when people act like drummers actuall write songs. maybe lyrically, like p4p, reign in pain, etc., but he doesn't write anything musically - he's just the drummer. i think people have a generally wrong perception of how a band works. more often than not, there are 1 or 2 creative forces in a band(1 if the band has a singer/guitarist like deryck, and 2 if the singer doesn't play guitar/piano; although in bands like alice in chains and oasis, the guitarist wrote most the lyrics for the singer anyway). while the rest of the band does contribute live and record some of the shit, they simply working w/ the stuff that someone else wrote. stevo, for example, doesn't play guitar (like he attempts to, but he is NOT a legit guitarist), so you can't credit him w/ making a song (especially musically) if he just drums. now granted he's a good drummer, but is not a creative force behind the band, neither is tom, and neither is cone. it's pretty much solely deryck, and i'm fine w/ that, cuz it's worked out well so far (except most of underclass hero, of course). also, in response to what someone else above said, 3/15 would work cuz albums are almost always released on a tuesday, the 26th would be a friday so that date is highly unlikely.Hentaiman wrote:I'm actually disappointed Like Everyone Else won't make it. I hope it'll be released as a b-side or something still... cuz I think they recorded it, right? Anyway, it could've been nice to hear a Cone song on this record, if we have a Tom song (kinda), and maybe even a Steve song.. although I think Steve's kinda songs wouldn't fit the whole mood of the record.
This is so legit. Songs they haven't played before will probably be the best set list ever, I'm assuming he means all albums pre-SBM not SBM songs. The only thing I hope is that they don't play a lot of UH songs because I'm pretty sure that's the album that had the most songs that were never played live.TomiT14 wrote:If that fails, March 26th would be cool too.dbauer91 wrote:just calling it now - my 20th bday - 3/15/11 WILL BE the release date.
New Deryck interview --> http://norwichgigs.co.uk/interviews/sum-41/
FUCK YES!Deryck wrote:"We are going to be playing different songs, that we haven’t played before, but will still put on a fun, high energy show. We should be playing an hour and twenty so will have time to fit in a lot of songs."
The 26th was just a birthday factor, like I thought yours was too. To be honest I couldn't care less what the date will be. I'll buy the album when it comes out, no matter when it is.dbauer91 wrote:in response to what someone else above said, 3/15 would work cuz albums are almost always released on a tuesday, the 26th would be a friday so that date is highly unlikely.
Aww, so much negativity here again.kILLDR3n wrote:This is so legit. Songs they haven't played before will probably be the best set list ever, I'm assuming he means all albums pre-SBM not SBM songs. The only thing I hope is that they don't play a lot of UH songs because I'm pretty sure that's the album that had the most songs that were never played live.
What I really want to see are AKNF, DTLI, and Chuck rarities.
Songs I don't want to hear:
With Me
Best of Me - I hope they NEVER play this song.
You hate it when drummers are given credit for writing songs? Wow, you are either incredibly ignorant or one insecure guitarist. I'm not even going to point in how many ways you're wrong because I think you know that the instrument you play in the band has nothing to do with the ability to write songs. Just because one person in a band writes the core of the songs doesn't mean you should deprive all other members of the bands of their creative influence. Most of the time it is neither all of them equally, nor one of them solely, but something dynamic inbetween.dbauer91 wrote:no offense, but i hate it when people act like drummers actuall write songs. maybe lyrically, like p4p, reign in pain, etc., but he doesn't write anything musically - he's just the drummer. i think people have a generally wrong perception of how a band works. more often than not, there are 1 or 2 creative forces in a band(1 if the band has a singer/guitarist like deryck, and 2 if the singer doesn't play guitar/piano; although in bands like alice in chains and oasis, the guitarist wrote most the lyrics for the singer anyway). while the rest of the band does contribute live and record some of the shit, they simply working w/ the stuff that someone else wrote. stevo, for example, doesn't play guitar (like he attempts to, but he is NOT a legit guitarist), so you can't credit him w/ making a song (especially musically) if he just drums. now granted he's a good drummer, but is not a creative force behind the band, neither is tom, and neither is cone. it's pretty much solely deryck, and i'm fine w/ that, cuz it's worked out well so far (except most of underclass hero, of course). also, in response to what someone else above said, 3/15 would work cuz albums are almost always released on a tuesday, the 26th would be a friday so that date is highly unlikely.Hentaiman wrote:I'm actually disappointed Like Everyone Else won't make it. I hope it'll be released as a b-side or something still... cuz I think they recorded it, right? Anyway, it could've been nice to hear a Cone song on this record, if we have a Tom song (kinda), and maybe even a Steve song.. although I think Steve's kinda songs wouldn't fit the whole mood of the record.
he obviously never heard of Avenged Sevenolfd...or other bands ...drummer can be even a leader in the band ...Simon wrote:You hate it when drummers are given credit for writing songs? Wow, you are either incredibly ignorant or one insecure guitarist. I'm not even going to point in how many ways you're wrong because I think you know that the instrument you play in the band has nothing to do with the ability to write songs. Just because one person in a band writes the core of the songs doesn't mean you should deprive all other members of the bands of their creative influence. Most of the time it is neither all of them equally, nor one of them solely, but something dynamic inbetween.dbauer91 wrote:no offense, but i hate it when people act like drummers actuall write songs. maybe lyrically, like p4p, reign in pain, etc., but he doesn't write anything musically - he's just the drummer. i think people have a generally wrong perception of how a band works. more often than not, there are 1 or 2 creative forces in a band(1 if the band has a singer/guitarist like deryck, and 2 if the singer doesn't play guitar/piano; although in bands like alice in chains and oasis, the guitarist wrote most the lyrics for the singer anyway). while the rest of the band does contribute live and record some of the shit, they simply working w/ the stuff that someone else wrote. stevo, for example, doesn't play guitar (like he attempts to, but he is NOT a legit guitarist), so you can't credit him w/ making a song (especially musically) if he just drums. now granted he's a good drummer, but is not a creative force behind the band, neither is tom, and neither is cone. it's pretty much solely deryck, and i'm fine w/ that, cuz it's worked out well so far (except most of underclass hero, of course). also, in response to what someone else above said, 3/15 would work cuz albums are almost always released on a tuesday, the 26th would be a friday so that date is highly unlikely.Hentaiman wrote:I'm actually disappointed Like Everyone Else won't make it. I hope it'll be released as a b-side or something still... cuz I think they recorded it, right? Anyway, it could've been nice to hear a Cone song on this record, if we have a Tom song (kinda), and maybe even a Steve song.. although I think Steve's kinda songs wouldn't fit the whole mood of the record.
If you really believe what you wrote there, you are just another one with the wrong perception of how a band works, but on the opposite side of what the reality is.
Rush, Genesis, the Eagles, to add a few more. dbauer91 knows shit.FuckT41182 wrote: he obviously never heard of Avenged Sevenolfd...or other bands ...drummer can be even a leader in the band ...
actually, i play guitar, drums, bass, keyboard, and sing, so yea i do know my shit. and i'm not trying to argue or make a big thing out of this, but the drummer is absolutely NOT the songwriter in a band unless they play and write music on a non-percussion instrument. like if you were to place deryck in a room w/ a shitload of instruments and tell him to make a record, he could. stevo couldn't, cuz he doesn't actually play the musical/non-percussion instruments. he could still write lyrics and sing, but w/o guitars/bass/keyboard, a song would be just a drum solo w/ singing.2712 wrote:Rush, Genesis, the Eagles, to add a few more. dbauer91 knows shit.FuckT41182 wrote: he obviously never heard of Avenged Sevenolfd...or other bands ...drummer can be even a leader in the band ...
nah, you're completely write about your argument. if that was the case and the drummer wrote the shit on guitar in the first place, the he should absolutely get the credit. HOWEVER, stevo doesn't play any non-percussion instruments (at least seriously, he only dicks around on guitar every once in awhile). look i'm not trying to argue and get off-topic from sum stuff, but you guys gotta realize that stevo, as solely a percussionist, is NOT a songwriter. some drummers in other bands may be, but stevo isn't. he maybe an occasional lyricist, but not a songwriter.2712 wrote:so what you're saying is, if you're a drummer in a band, but you write a song on your guitar and write some lyrics, and you show said song to your band mates, you want the CD insert to say that the song was written by the guitarist/singer? wow, i've heard of being modest, but when you're practically giving a song to the singer to possibly get song writing royalties, thats something special. way to go man, you are the most humble person i've ever had the pleasure of taking to.
down to seriousness. sum 41 shares the song writing titles within themselves, if a song is built upon a drum beat, or bass line, then why shouldn't steve or cone be able to share credit of the song with deryck?
Steve plays piano as well.. Piano and drums are enough to write a couple of songs..dbauer91 wrote:nah, you're completely write about your argument. if that was the case and the drummer wrote the shit on guitar in the first place, the he should absolutely get the credit. HOWEVER, stevo doesn't play any non-percussion instruments (at least seriously, he only dicks around on guitar every once in awhile). look i'm not trying to argue and get off-topic from sum stuff, but you guys gotta realize that stevo, as solely a percussionist, is NOT a songwriter. some drummers in other bands may be, but stevo isn't. he maybe an occasional lyricist, but not a songwriter.2712 wrote:so what you're saying is, if you're a drummer in a band, but you write a song on your guitar and write some lyrics, and you show said song to your band mates, you want the CD insert to say that the song was written by the guitarist/singer? wow, i've heard of being modest, but when you're practically giving a song to the singer to possibly get song writing royalties, thats something special. way to go man, you are the most humble person i've ever had the pleasure of taking to.
down to seriousness. sum 41 shares the song writing titles within themselves, if a song is built upon a drum beat, or bass line, then why shouldn't steve or cone be able to share credit of the song with deryck?
