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Postby TomiT14 on Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:02 am


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Sum 41 has officially released its first single for the upcoming album 13 Voices. This new song is titled War. Here's how Deryck describes the song.

Deryck wrote:so we have officially picked the first single now. this song is called “war”. i picked this song because of it’s importance to me. i feel this song literally saved my life. i was at my absolute lowest point of what seemed like a never ending recovery. i was at a tipping point where i could have easily just given up and went back to my old ways of alcohol abuse which would’ve ended up killing me, which at the time felt like a better option. when all of a sudden, in mid thought, these lyrics sort of appeared in my head and i grabbed a pencil and paper instead of a bottle and started writing. when i read it back to myself i realized i had written words that i would need to live up to if i wanted to survive. whenever i had any thoughts of giving up i would read these lyrics myself to remind me that i need to keep fighting harder and what it was exactly i was fighting for.


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Postby dff_punk on Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:34 am

It's so catchy - can't get it out of my head, and that's a good thing! Songwriting-wise, it's really awesome, the melody is really fine. The only thing a bit out of place(imho) are the modern synth beats in the beginning, but otherwise I love it :)

As a guy who is sober for over 4 years and has his history with alcohol, I totally get the lyrics, his whole struggle and where he's coming from. Don't worry Deryck, it gets better with time!
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Re: WAR

Postby samueeL on Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:00 am

Love the song, great backing vocals especially.

One note:
Spotify version and YouTube version have different bridge, I think I like the youtube one more!

Also Deryck looks so good and healthy and he also looks a bit like DC Comics dude Constantine, haha.
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Postby The Jester on Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:55 am

I'm wondering whether they will play this live a lot.
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Postby Noreason757 on Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:27 pm

I can't wait to hear the acoustic version
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Postby Sju on Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:36 pm

Like I said in the other thread, it's definitely not what I had expected, and, honestly, I didn't like it that much at first. On my very first listen, the first 15-20 seconds and the synth beats scared me a bit. :D It is growing on me, though. I love the lyrics/emotion behind it and D's commentary really moved me. I'm definitely going to keep listening :winkwink:

I really like the video but I'm not not a fan of the ending.
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Postby Ashasx on Thu Aug 25, 2016 4:33 pm

I definitely prefer Fake My Own Death (which I think is a pretty special song), but I'm still enjoying it. It's different than anything they've done before.

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Re: WAR

Postby Gebirgskuchen on Thu Aug 25, 2016 6:39 pm

For me personally War is a good rock ballad, far better than any of the ballads of SBM or UH. Nevertheless, harmonic-wise War is a little bit boring, especially, because there's no real bridge, which distingishes from the other song parts.

All in all it's my ballad No.2 right after Pieces. :)
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Postby PTswim41 on Thu Aug 25, 2016 7:30 pm

Sju wrote:Like I said in the other thread, it's definitely not what I had expected, and, honestly, I didn't like it that much at first. On my very first listen, the first 15-20 seconds and the synth beats scared me a bit. :D It is growing on me, though. I love the lyrics/emotion behind it and D's commentary really moved me. I'm definitely going to keep listening :winkwink:

I really like the video but I'm not not a fan of the ending.



Synth beats? All I hear is piano, drums, and guitar.
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Postby Sju on Thu Aug 25, 2016 7:59 pm

PTswim41 wrote:
Sju wrote:Like I said in the other thread, it's definitely not what I had expected, and, honestly, I didn't like it that much at first. On my very first listen, the first 15-20 seconds and the synth beats scared me a bit. :D It is growing on me, though. I love the lyrics/emotion behind it and D's commentary really moved me. I'm definitely going to keep listening :winkwink:

I really like the video but I'm not not a fan of the ending.



Synth beats? All I hear is piano, drums, and guitar.

I wasn't sure what to call it and someone else already used the term. I meant the beats at 0:13-17.
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Postby sumelf on Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:58 pm

ok, I listened to it for the whole day and the song has grew on me. I think it's quite good while it still could be better with some touches here and there. Let's think about There's No Solution.
And also it is still too POP for me, please don't misunderstand, it's not too light or slow, but really trying to be so radio song, as you mentioned before.
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Postby MetalMilition41 on Fri Aug 26, 2016 12:39 am

I've listened to it all day as well. It's grown on me but it still sounds Linkin Parkesque imo. I also find it ironic how the song following this one on the album is called God Save Us All (Death to POP) lol
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Postby spider-man on Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:39 am

I do enjoy the song, but yeah I think releasing this as the single was a huge mistake. I feel kind of bad for the guys, because I think this will kill some of the hype of the album release. I think we really needed to hear another heavy song with a solo from Dave at this point to keep things moving.

On another note though, I do feel like the lyrics call for a much more aggressive song. Especially with the main hook being "Get ready cause this is war!!!"
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Postby Jeremy Kill on Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:58 am

samueeL wrote:Spotify version and YouTube version have different bridge, I think I like the youtube one more!

I noticed this today. I wonder if the YouTube version will be on the album. It reminds me of March of the Dogs, except backwards. There was a second guitar in the pre-chorus on the digital release version, but then taken out on the album version.

spider-man wrote:I do enjoy the song, but yeah I think releasing this as the single was a huge mistake. I feel kind of bad for the guys, because I think this will kill some of the hype of the album release. I think we really needed to hear another heavy song with a solo from Dave at this point to keep things moving.

I don't know, I think what they're doing so far is working/going to work out for them. Fake My Own Death was a great comeback song, and by the looks of it most people enjoy it. The general story behind 13 Voices is that it's about Deryck's recovery, so it feels fitting that the first single is the one that saved his life, regardless of it being a ballad or not. It also shows the dynamic of the album that they have fast, riffy songs, but also softer ones too. Like they're letting the public know not to expect it to be DTLI-2 just because Dave's back.

The best part about War (in my opinion) is that none of it appeared as little teasers on Deryck's Instagram, so there's still "those songs" to look forward to, haha.
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Postby SBMurder on Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:28 am

spider-man wrote:I do enjoy the song, but yeah I think releasing this as the single was a huge mistake. I feel kind of bad for the guys, because I think this will kill some of the hype of the album release. I think we really needed to hear another heavy song with a solo from Dave at this point to keep things moving.

On another note though, I do feel like the lyrics call for a much more aggressive song. Especially with the main hook being "Get ready cause this is war!!!"

the point of a single is to get the appeal of the masses. if they release something that caters to the die hard fans then it will be liked by pretty much only the die hard fans and not many else. its better for them to release tracks that will be successful with large crowds of people rather than the ones that will only please their current fans
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Postby TomiT14 on Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:44 am

Jeremy Kill wrote:It reminds me of March of the Dogs, except backwards. There was a second guitar in the pre-chorus on the digital release version, but then taken out on the album version.


Whaaat? I did not know this. :glad: And after checking out all the files I have, I can't seem to find a version with two guitars. Or am I just deaf? :glad:
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Postby Jeremy Kill on Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:18 am

TomiT14 wrote:
Jeremy Kill wrote:It reminds me of March of the Dogs, except backwards. There was a second guitar in the pre-chorus on the digital release version, but then taken out on the album version.


Whaaat? I did not know this. :glad: And after checking out all the files I have, I can't seem to find a version with two guitars. Or am I just deaf? :glad:

Haha, it should be the version that fades out at the end. The track time is 3:11. It's easier to hear with headphones though! The rest of my post is in spoilers so I don't derail this thread any longer, haha.

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Tom usually played the second guitar part live back in the day, but most videos on YouTube don't have good sound quality. If you're curious to what it sounded like, this guy did a guitar cover where he plays it - kind of, haha, I don't know about the last couple of notes if they're correct.

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Postby TomiT14 on Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:35 am

Jeremy Kill wrote:
TomiT14 wrote:
Jeremy Kill wrote:It reminds me of March of the Dogs, except backwards. There was a second guitar in the pre-chorus on the digital release version, but then taken out on the album version.


Whaaat? I did not know this. :glad: And after checking out all the files I have, I can't seem to find a version with two guitars. Or am I just deaf? :glad:

Haha, it should be the version that fades out at the end. The track time is 3:11. It's easier to hear with headphones though! The rest of my post is in spoilers so I don't derail this thread any longer, haha.

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Tom usually played the second guitar part live back in the day, but most videos on YouTube don't have good sound quality. If you're curious to what it sounded like, this guy did a guitar cover where he plays it - kind of, haha, I don't know about the last couple of notes if they're correct.



I'd think it's a mixing/quality issue. I have three versions, UH-album (3:08 leading to Jester), UH-single (3:10 fading out) and a low quality version (3:11 leading to Jester).

While the guitar is "clear" in the low quality version, the ending is the same as on the album. After listening to the high quality versions, I may be wrong, but I think I could hear a distant second guitar on those. So I believe the guitar is there on the album, but it's either mixed more to the background, or you can just hear it better on the low quality version. At least that's what I think, until someone provides me a high quality version of the original file. :glad:
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Postby Iam The Ghost on Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:45 am

Whats is that drawning that he digs out in the video?

Btw, I like War better than FMOD.
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Postby TomiT14 on Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:43 am

Iam The Ghost wrote:Whats is that drawning that he digs out in the video?

Btw, I like War better than FMOD.


On Facebook someone commented that it's a drawing of Deryck made by Avril. I have no idea if it's true or not.
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