I would rather have had Cone leave Sum 41

[Emil]

but at first everyone called American Idiot a messy album too

Wtf, really? That album's cohesive and flows so well.

Yeah, i think a big reason Green Days records flow so well is because of Rob Cavallo, he produced all their records from Dookie to American Idiot and then they got Butch Vig who's awesome as well.

[stevie486]

Oh no Cone provides an important part to the band, he gives the Sum 41 feeling to the band in which way he plays the bass, he's very good bass player as well. I love way SBM is produced, vocals and drums have never sounded so damn good, hard hitting and clear, UH isn't as great even though was produced by Deryck too, but still like the album but SBM has better production i think.

I hope Sum 41 release many more albums but I do think should get their act together and make more an effort and also get top producer like Biffy Clyro or Green Day's producers or again Gil Norton could have done justice if they let him just produce it next time, I remember how much bigger Sum 41 were when had Dave it was insane, what's happened? those people probably all metal heads now I guess, always same, people start off with punk and get into heavier stuff, well maybe no really, I like bit everything from mellow rock, acoustic stuff to heavy rock, not into proper mad metal shit but I like some alternative metal stuff