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Re: a Guide to Torrents

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:28 am
by LTS
boniboyblue wrote:
LTS wrote:
Shiv wrote:
LTS wrote:I've studied this and it's my understanding that it's not illegal if you just use it for personal use...
its less illegal if you use it for personal use

its more illegal if you sell it lol
It's really not illegal to download movies if you use them for personal use.

It's not Legal, but it's not Illegal.

If that makes any sense.

Criminal copyright infringment (the warning you see in the beginning of movies) implies copying, showing to large audiences, selling, or making illegal copies.
You do relies that by downloading a film is you making an "illegal copy", so you have basically proved my point. If the authorities catch you with them, they will charge you, simple as.

I admit I download shit, but the way I keep of the radar is by not downloading too much in most cases it's the ISP that catches you not the authorities
That's why you get a good ISP.

some companies (cox cable) will shut off your internet if they find stuff on your computer.
Some companies (AT&T) either don't care or don't check. Or don't do anything if they find something.
and that's why i convert any movies i downlaod to ipod format and load em up in itunes and delete the original. they can't do shit then.

Re: a Guide to Torrents

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:56 pm
by Boni
LTS wrote:
boniboyblue wrote:
LTS wrote:
Shiv wrote:
LTS wrote:I've studied this and it's my understanding that it's not illegal if you just use it for personal use...
its less illegal if you use it for personal use

its more illegal if you sell it lol
It's really not illegal to download movies if you use them for personal use.

It's not Legal, but it's not Illegal.

If that makes any sense.

Criminal copyright infringment (the warning you see in the beginning of movies) implies copying, showing to large audiences, selling, or making illegal copies.
You do relies that by downloading a film is you making an "illegal copy", so you have basically proved my point. If the authorities catch you with them, they will charge you, simple as.

I admit I download shit, but the way I keep of the radar is by not downloading too much in most cases it's the ISP that catches you not the authorities
That's why you get a good ISP.

some companies (cox cable) will shut off your internet if they find stuff on your computer.
Some companies (AT&T) either don't care or don't check. Or don't do anything if they find something.
and that's why i convert any movies i downlaod to ipod format and load em up in itunes and delete the original. they can't do shit then.
If your ISP scans your computer for content I think you should sue them, what your saying is called hacking. I dunno how the law works of in America but here unauthorised access into any computer system deemed illegal

Re: a Guide to Torrents

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:05 am
by Shiv
boniboyblue wrote:
LTS wrote:
boniboyblue wrote:
LTS wrote:
Shiv wrote:
LTS wrote:I've studied this and it's my understanding that it's not illegal if you just use it for personal use...
its less illegal if you use it for personal use

its more illegal if you sell it lol
It's really not illegal to download movies if you use them for personal use.

It's not Legal, but it's not Illegal.

If that makes any sense.

Criminal copyright infringment (the warning you see in the beginning of movies) implies copying, showing to large audiences, selling, or making illegal copies.
You do relies that by downloading a film is you making an "illegal copy", so you have basically proved my point. If the authorities catch you with them, they will charge you, simple as.

I admit I download shit, but the way I keep of the radar is by not downloading too much in most cases it's the ISP that catches you not the authorities
That's why you get a good ISP.

some companies (cox cable) will shut off your internet if they find stuff on your computer.
Some companies (AT&T) either don't care or don't check. Or don't do anything if they find something.
and that's why i convert any movies i downlaod to ipod format and load em up in itunes and delete the original. they can't do shit then.
If your ISP scans your computer for content I think you should sue them, what your saying is called hacking. I dunno how the law works of in America but here unauthorised access into any computer system deemed illegal
see now the thing is if they have legitimate evidence that you are hacking, etc. they can lawfully scan ur computer. most isps don't bother, but nonetheless if they really wanted to they could..... :headbanger:

Re: a Guide to Torrents

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:03 am
by Boni
I'll say this one more time

Unless the authorizes have a court order and show you it first. Unauthorised access into any computer system deemed illegal

Re: a Guide to Torrents

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:49 am
by Shiv
boniboyblue wrote:I'll say this one more time

Unless the authorizes have a court order and show you it first. Unauthorised access into any computer system deemed illegal
for real?

srry my bad :headbanger:
i thought if they had a warrant then they could search ur comp without ur consent

Re: a Guide to Torrents

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:57 pm
by Boni
Shiv wrote:
boniboyblue wrote:I'll say this one more time

Unless the authorizes have a court order and show you it first. Unauthorised access into any computer system deemed illegal
for real?

srry my bad :headbanger:
i thought if they had a warrant then they could search ur comp without ur consent
A court order is a warrant, but legally they must show you the warrant first before they can even search your house or whatever the warrant implies.

Re: a Guide to Torrents

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:04 pm
by Shiv
boniboyblue wrote:
Shiv wrote:
boniboyblue wrote:I'll say this one more time

Unless the authorizes have a court order and show you it first. Unauthorised access into any computer system deemed illegal
for real?

srry my bad :headbanger:
i thought if they had a warrant then they could search ur comp without ur consent
A court order is a warrant, but legally they must show you the warrant first before they can even search your house or whatever the warrant implies.
oh yea

tru
but still its not like

"omfg give me ONE second...(smashes hard drive)"

Re: a Guide to Torrents

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:30 am
by LTS
Technically, the ISP's can do whatever the hell they want.

The only law for them is there Terms of Service, and if they think you're breaking it, they can do whatever they want to find out... then shut down your account.

Re: a Guide to Torrents

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:13 am
by Jake
boniboyblue wrote:
Shiv wrote:
boniboyblue wrote:I'll say this one more time

Unless the authorizes have a court order and show you it first. Unauthorised access into any computer system deemed illegal
for real?

srry my bad :headbanger:
i thought if they had a warrant then they could search ur comp without ur consent
A court order is a warrant, but legally they must show you the warrant first before they can even search your house or whatever the warrant implies.
They can scan what you are downloading but only whilst you are downloading it.

Virgin media here in the UK (Yes, they offer 'unlimited broadband' (my 20mb gets capped to 10mb if i download more than 2GB after 4pm and all other speeds have lower limits)) will scan what you are downloading and have a 3 strike policy.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/news ... aders.html

Re: a Guide to Torrents

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:54 pm
by The Witness
strange question i use bittorrent is bittorent and utorrent the same?

Re: a Guide to Torrents

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:29 pm
by Shiv
HolesInJeans wrote:strange question i use bittorrent is bittorent and utorrent the same?
they are just two different programs used to download torrents

Re: a Guide to Torrents

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:25 pm
by Boni
HolesInJeans wrote:strange question i use bittorrent is bittorent and utorrent the same?
uTorrent is owned by BitTorrent

Re: a Guide to Torrents

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 5:38 pm
by The Witness
alright thanks