Well, I guess Island help their major breakthrough with AKNF when they were just signed to Island back in 2000, but ever since AKNF the band never was as big as then. I guess DTLI also enjoyed some kind of commercial success with singles such as Still Waiting and The Hell Song but still, it was no Fat Lip or In Too Deep, and with Chuck and UH this success just kinda disappeared as they progressed, so that sucks...
It's like they promoted the Sums when it was hot with the whole pop punk trend of the early 00s but somewhere with Chuck when the band also went into an another non-popular direction, Island just decided to invest less and less in the band's promotion and stuff.
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yeah I think Pieces enjoyed a bit of a success ...and international success is not everything ...most of the songs of Chuck are the most popular among true Sum 41 fans ...
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But Island Records don't give a shit about fans. The only thing that they care about is money.FuckT41182 wrote:yeah I think Pieces enjoyed a bit of a success ...and international success is not everything ...most of the songs of Chuck are the most popular among true Sum 41 fans ...
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I know that ...but I dont care about IR ...my post has nothing in common with IR ...I just wanted to say that Chuck was a good album for true fans ...and Pieces was successful worldwide ...soft-punker wrote:But Island Records don't give a shit about fans. The only thing that they care about is money.FuckT41182 wrote:yeah I think Pieces enjoyed a bit of a success ...and international success is not everything ...most of the songs of Chuck are the most popular among true Sum 41 fans ...
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Re: 12 min song discussion
i think SBM will be very similar- it may not be a mainstream success, but it will be loved among real sum 41 fans, and one or two tracks may get recognised internationally.FuckT41182 wrote:I know that ...but I dont care about IR ...my post has nothing in common with IR ...I just wanted to say that Chuck was a good album for true fans ...and Pieces was successful worldwide ...soft-punker wrote:But Island Records don't give a shit about fans. The only thing that they care about is money.FuckT41182 wrote:yeah I think Pieces enjoyed a bit of a success ...and international success is not everything ...most of the songs of Chuck are the most popular among true Sum 41 fans ...
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I want it to be a mainstream success. I want Sum 41 to be known again.Gregorovich wrote:i think SBM will be very similar- it may not be a mainstream success, but it will be loved among real sum 41 fans, and one or two tracks may get recognised internationally.FuckT41182 wrote:I know that ...but I dont care about IR ...my post has nothing in common with IR ...I just wanted to say that Chuck was a good album for true fans ...and Pieces was successful worldwide ...soft-punker wrote:But Island Records don't give a shit about fans. The only thing that they care about is money.FuckT41182 wrote:yeah I think Pieces enjoyed a bit of a success ...and international success is not everything ...most of the songs of Chuck are the most popular among true Sum 41 fans ...
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not TOO known. I don't want them to play big venues. I love the small ones they play now. The vibe is always better in smaller ones.kILLDR3n wrote:I want it to be a mainstream success. I want Sum 41 to be known again.Gregorovich wrote:i think SBM will be very similar- it may not be a mainstream success, but it will be loved among real sum 41 fans, and one or two tracks may get recognised internationally.FuckT41182 wrote:I know that ...but I dont care about IR ...my post has nothing in common with IR ...I just wanted to say that Chuck was a good album for true fans ...and Pieces was successful worldwide ...soft-punker wrote:But Island Records don't give a shit about fans. The only thing that they care about is money.FuckT41182 wrote:yeah I think Pieces enjoyed a bit of a success ...and international success is not everything ...most of the songs of Chuck are the most popular among true Sum 41 fans ...
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I want them to be where Linkin Park is right now, not sound wise but in terms of popularity.Shelley41 wrote:not TOO known. I don't want them to play big venues. I love the small ones they play now. The vibe is always better in smaller ones.kILLDR3n wrote:I want it to be a mainstream success. I want Sum 41 to be known again.Gregorovich wrote:i think SBM will be very similar- it may not be a mainstream success, but it will be loved among real sum 41 fans, and one or two tracks may get recognised internationally.FuckT41182 wrote:I know that ...but I dont care about IR ...my post has nothing in common with IR ...I just wanted to say that Chuck was a good album for true fans ...and Pieces was successful worldwide ...soft-punker wrote:But Island Records don't give a shit about fans. The only thing that they care about is money.FuckT41182 wrote:yeah I think Pieces enjoyed a bit of a success ...and international success is not everything ...most of the songs of Chuck are the most popular among true Sum 41 fans ...
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You hate Sum 41, right?kILLDR3n wrote:I want them to be where Linkin Park is right now...Shelley41 wrote:not TOO known. I don't want them to play big venues. I love the small ones they play now. The vibe is always better in smaller ones.kILLDR3n wrote:I want it to be a mainstream success. I want Sum 41 to be known again.Gregorovich wrote:i think SBM will be very similar- it may not be a mainstream success, but it will be loved among real sum 41 fans, and one or two tracks may get recognised internationally.FuckT41182 wrote:I know that ...but I dont care about IR ...my post has nothing in common with IR ...I just wanted to say that Chuck was a good album for true fans ...and Pieces was successful worldwide ...soft-punker wrote:But Island Records don't give a shit about fans. The only thing that they care about is money.FuckT41182 wrote:yeah I think Pieces enjoyed a bit of a success ...and international success is not everything ...most of the songs of Chuck are the most popular among true Sum 41 fans ...
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You guys are jokes.
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Actually, I wouldn't mind if Sum 41 got mainstream again if their album was the most mature, heaviest (as in intense, not necessarily music-wise like guitar riffs), artistic and best work they've ever done.
To go mainstream because of a bratty teen anthem is one thing, but to do it again 10 years later with music that resembles nothing from what made you famous in the first place is something else. It's like the class clown in high school that comes back to the 10 year reunion as some rich, powerful, person that does charity work.
That being said, I would've been extremely disappointed if Underclass Hero launched Sum 41 back into Fat Lip stardom as it is, in essence, a rehash of Fat Lip.
To go mainstream because of a bratty teen anthem is one thing, but to do it again 10 years later with music that resembles nothing from what made you famous in the first place is something else. It's like the class clown in high school that comes back to the 10 year reunion as some rich, powerful, person that does charity work.
That being said, I would've been extremely disappointed if Underclass Hero launched Sum 41 back into Fat Lip stardom as it is, in essence, a rehash of Fat Lip.
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Re: 12 min song discussion
If you want people who only know their singles liking them, fine.kILLDR3n wrote:You guys are jokes.
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I want everybody to like them. Of course if their singles are good then people will like them.Raku wrote:If you want people who only know their singles liking them, fine.kILLDR3n wrote:You guys are jokes.
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you really cant stand it ??I dont care if they listen to Sum 41 or not ...who cares ..Raku wrote:If you want people who only know their singles liking them, fine.kILLDR3n wrote:You guys are jokes.
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To all concerned Fat Lip =/= Underclass Hero. Also, have any admins here, tried inquiring (to the band) about the release of this song or the album at all?
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it would be useless ...I dont know if you noticed but Sum 41 know nothing about when it will be possible for them to release the 12 minutes long song ...if you wanna know,write an email to Island Records or call them and expect no response ...Schmiznatch wrote:To all concerned Fat Lip =/= Underclass Hero. Also, have any admins here, tried inquiring (to the band) about the release of this song or the album at all?
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I know a few asked about it and I remember tom saying that this song should've been out by now.Schmiznatch wrote:To all concerned Fat Lip =/= Underclass Hero. Also, have any admins here, tried inquiring (to the band) about the release of this song or the album at all?
As for the album Deryck said beginning if next year. It also said that in a magazine....I think it was kerrang.
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Island = Gestapo... jk I don't think they're that badspider-man wrote:to be honest, I think there is a very high chance that this album won't ever get released, at least under island. they might have to break away and start all over. just look at what happened to hanson when they were on island.
Remember that Muse album that came out in 2001? Their record label didn't release the album in the US till 2005 because they refused to remove the falsetto vocals to make it more radio friendly.
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You know I started thinking how about we do one of those online petitions to get this song out. I say if we get enough people they might actually release it!! Who thinks this is a good idea?